Comments on: A Broken Relationship: No Other Place to Go http://www.fragmentsfromfloyd.com/uncategorized/a-broken-relationship-no-other-place-to-go/ Photos and Front Porch Musing from Floyd County Virginia Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:25:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: bill;www.wildramblings.com http://www.fragmentsfromfloyd.com/uncategorized/a-broken-relationship-no-other-place-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-9494 bill;www.wildramblings.com Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:10:14 +0000 http://www.fragmentsfromfloyd.com/?p=2607#comment-9494 My point is, and I have really studied this, is that we have really underestimated the impacts of methane that will be released from the artic tundra. It is much greater than anticipated. You are 100% correct that CO2 was the pushing force behind methane release from the arctic, but methane may become a very significant contributer to the overall equation. RE: methane produced by farm animals, the science being used is suspect. Given our continent was once roamed by scores of millions of buffalo (and other continents had their own large "biomass" of mammals) it may be a wash with current populations of farm animals. My opionion about this is that some groups are piling on the global warming issue. I don't blame them I just find them distracting. bill;www.wildramblings.com My point is, and I have really studied this, is that we have really underestimated the impacts of methane that will be released from the artic tundra. It is much greater than anticipated. You are 100% correct that CO2 was the pushing force behind methane release from the arctic, but methane may become a very significant contributer to the overall equation.

RE: methane produced by farm animals, the science being used is suspect. Given our continent was once roamed by scores of millions of buffalo (and other continents had their own large “biomass” of mammals) it may be a wash with current populations of farm animals. My opionion about this is that some groups are piling on the global warming issue. I don’t blame them I just find them distracting.

bill;www.wildramblings.com

]]> By: fred http://www.fragmentsfromfloyd.com/uncategorized/a-broken-relationship-no-other-place-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-9468 fred Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:25:24 +0000 http://www.fragmentsfromfloyd.com/?p=2607#comment-9468 I don't think media is ignoring methane, but it is CO2 forcing methane release from permafrost, etc, not the other way around. There's plenty of info out there on methane--especially from our meat creatures. Water of course is constant in absolute amount contained within the land, oceans or atmosphere, but not in distribution, and varies again as temps go up or down. That cities need revamping to reflect rather than absorb radiant energy is a certainty, and light roofs or "green" vegetated roofs will be the norm some day. And one does wonder where the climate tipping point is--behind us already, or ahead of us. I don’t think media is ignoring methane, but it is CO2 forcing methane release from permafrost, etc, not the other way around. There’s plenty of info out there on methane–especially from our meat creatures.

Water of course is constant in absolute amount contained within the land, oceans or atmosphere, but not in distribution, and varies again as temps go up or down.

That cities need revamping to reflect rather than absorb radiant energy is a certainty, and light roofs or “green” vegetated roofs will be the norm some day. And one does wonder where the climate tipping point is–behind us already, or ahead of us.

]]> By: bill;www.wildramblings.com http://www.fragmentsfromfloyd.com/uncategorized/a-broken-relationship-no-other-place-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-9467 bill;www.wildramblings.com Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:58:33 +0000 http://www.fragmentsfromfloyd.com/?p=2607#comment-9467 But its much more than carbon, we have no way of measuring increased water vapor increased in the atmosphere, or comparing it to the past (from increased pavement, warmer temperatures, etc), and we are ignoring the huge amounts of methoane pouring into the atmosphere as the tundra melts. Just two of the other greenhouse gases that the media pays no attention to. Surely we must all get involved from personal behaviour changes to political pressure. Not too late, but we are getting there. Bill:www.wildramblings.com But its much more than carbon, we have no way of measuring increased water vapor increased in the atmosphere, or comparing it to the past (from increased pavement, warmer temperatures, etc), and we are ignoring the huge amounts of methoane pouring into the atmosphere as the tundra melts. Just two of the other greenhouse gases that the media pays no attention to.

Surely we must all get involved from personal behaviour changes to political pressure. Not too late, but we are getting there.

Bill:www.wildramblings.com

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